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Post subject:Zappa's bass players and their equipment (Trendm.-free)

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Location: Earth I thought I start something useful (hopefully) in between all this Trendmonger shit:
A list (for completion and correction) of Zappa's bass players and the equipment they have been using. Since I am a bass player myself, I'm always interested in how the bass sound was created and worked in a given musical situation.
This is what comes to my memory at the moment without doing any further research:
Roy Estrada:
1966-1969, Fender Precision + some unkown half-acoustic model, amplification unknown
1975/76: Fender Precision, amp unknown
Max Bennett:
1970, Fender Precision, amp unknown
Jeff Simmons: 
1970, Fender Precision or Telecaster, amp unknown
Martin Lickert:
1971, Fender Jazzbass, amp unknown
Jim Pons:
1971, Fender Precision?, amp unknown
Erroneous:
1972, ?
Dave Parlato:
1972, Fender Jazzbass?, amp unknown
Tom Fowler:
1973, Fender Precision, Fender Jazzbass, amp unknown, 1974/75, Alembic, amp unknown
James 'Birdlegs' Youman:
1974, ?
Patrick O'Hearn:
1976/77/78, Fender Precision fretless and fretted, amp unknown
Arthur Barrow:
1978/79, Gibson Grabber or Ripper, amp unknown, 
1980, Fender Jazzbass, amp unknown
Scott Thunes: 
1981/82, Carvin bass, amp unknown, 
1984, Fender Precision + Fender Jazzbass (backup only), amp unknown, 1988, Fender Precision + unknown 5-string (probably fretless) + Minimoog
FZ himself:
1976, ?
Additional info for completing this list, anybody?
(Trendmonger, I suggest you stay away from this.)
Th.
P.S.: I didn't add Jack Bruce, Shuggy Otis and probably others to the list because I considered their contributions less significant (in quantity, of course)

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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:28 am 

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Location: Rhineland Mick Rogers
and
James 'Bird Legs' Youman
who filled in for Tom Towler at the end of the 1974 tour. Don't know anything about their equipment.

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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:32 am 

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Location: Earth Since I was still able to edit I have just included Birdlegs into the above list.
But who is Mick (and) Rogers (da stehe ich gerade etwas auf dem Schlauch)?

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Location: Rhineland Sorry, Thinman. Das and ist beim Umstellen stehengeblieben. Heißt natürlich Mick Rogers. Rogers played a few concerts before he was replaced by Youman.

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Posts: 1396 FZ mentions here that he played a Hofner bass on 'Friendly Little Finger' and 'Down In De Dew.'


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Location: Earth FZ mentions here that he played a Hofner bass on 'Friendly Little Finger' and 'Down In De Dew.'

Yeah, that is the kind of info I was hoping for.


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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:54 am 

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Posts: 2552 This is pretty cool, perhaps we could start a series of these threads, it'd be great to know how FZ's various band members got their sound.


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Location: Silver Spring, Maryland Sorry, Thinman. Das and ist beim Umstellen stehengeblieben. Heißt natürlich Mick Rogers. Rogers played a few concerts before he was replaced by Youman.

Michael Urso was a replacement for Tom Fowler, and he was subsequently replaced by Youman. Mick Rogers played one show earlier in the year (1974) during a different tour.
Shuggy Otis (son of Johnny Otis) played some bass on Hot Rats.

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Posts: 1396 This page has a photo of James Youmans onstage with FZ, although the bass is only partially visible.


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Location: Earth Tom Fowler interview: http://www.afka.net/Articles/2000-03_Tmershi_Duween.htm


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Location: Rhineland Sorry, Thinman. Das and ist beim Umstellen stehengeblieben. Heißt natürlich Mick Rogers. Rogers played a few concerts before he was replaced by Youman.

Michael Urso was a replacement for Tom Fowler, and he was subsequently replaced by Youman. Mick Rogers played one show earlier in the year (1974) during a different tour.[/i].

Thanks, my source was the first edition of Greg Russo's Cosmik Debris. He corrected it in the next edition.

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Location: Seattle, WA, USSA I'm thinking Thunes played Carvin amps early on before switching to Trace Elliot.


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Location: EINDHOVEN Gary Titone played bass on Sleep Dirt

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Post subject:Re: Zappa's bass players and their equipment (Trendm.-free)

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Posts: 74 Scott Thunes: 
1981/82, Carvin bass, amp unknown, 
1984, Fender Precision + Fender Jazzbass (backup only), amp unknown, 1988, Fender Precision + unknown 5-string (probably fretless) + Minimoog

Thunes played Minimoog during the -82 and -84 tour aswell. And Barrow also played it during the spring -80 tour.


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Posts: 4859 Quite the opposite, the interview with t fowler was very informative, I like him.

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Location: South wales Yo Cats
That sounds Double bass Or Minimoog 
Some Prince track of purple rain sounds bassy around the same time with no bass played 

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Posts: 1623 Yo Cats is apparently done entirely on Synclavier, save for Chad's drums.
Tom Fowler's interview is indeed quite informative, but he also is a bit arrogant. Especially during the comment where he disses Frank's computer music (calling it a sterile and pathetic shit) and a few other places. I think Jimmy Carl Black said he was an awful person to be in a band with, accusing him of the conspiracy to drive out all the original Mothers alumni from the Grandmothers.

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Location: Nashville, Tn Anyone know the year on Arthur's Ripper?
(I only ask because my wife just approved my mostly un-wise purchase of a mint 1974 natural finish dream bass!!!)


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Posts: 1396 FZ mentions here that he played a Hofner bass on 'Friendly Little Finger' and 'Down In De Dew.'


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Location: Earth FZ mentions here that he played a Hofner bass on 'Friendly Little Finger' and 'Down In De Dew.'

Yeah, that is the kind of info I was hoping for.


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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:54 am 

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Posts: 2552 This is pretty cool, perhaps we could start a series of these threads, it'd be great to know how FZ's various band members got their sound.


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Location: Silver Spring, Maryland Sorry, Thinman. Das and ist beim Umstellen stehengeblieben. Heißt natürlich Mick Rogers. Rogers played a few concerts before he was replaced by Youman.

Michael Urso was a replacement for Tom Fowler, and he was subsequently replaced by Youman. Mick Rogers played one show earlier in the year (1974) during a different tour.
Shuggy Otis (son of Johnny Otis) played some bass on Hot Rats.

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Posts: 1396 This page has a photo of James Youmans onstage with FZ, although the bass is only partially visible.


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Location: Earth Tom Fowler interview: http://www.afka.net/Articles/2000-03_Tmershi_Duween.htm


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Location: Rhineland Sorry, Thinman. Das and ist beim Umstellen stehengeblieben. Heißt natürlich Mick Rogers. Rogers played a few concerts before he was replaced by Youman.

Michael Urso was a replacement for Tom Fowler, and he was subsequently replaced by Youman. Mick Rogers played one show earlier in the year (1974) during a different tour.[/i].

Thanks, my source was the first edition of Greg Russo's Cosmik Debris. He corrected it in the next edition.

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Location: Seattle, WA, USSA I'm thinking Thunes played Carvin amps early on before switching to Trace Elliot.


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Posts: 74 Scott Thunes: 
1981/82, Carvin bass, amp unknown, 
1984, Fender Precision + Fender Jazzbass (backup only), amp unknown, 1988, Fender Precision + unknown 5-string (probably fretless) + Minimoog

Thunes played Minimoog during the -82 and -84 tour aswell. And Barrow also played it during the spring -80 tour.


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Posts: 4859 Quite the opposite, the interview with t fowler was very informative, I like him.

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Location: South wales Yo Cats
That sounds Double bass Or Minimoog 
Some Prince track of purple rain sounds bassy around the same time with no bass played 

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Posts: 1623 Yo Cats is apparently done entirely on Synclavier, save for Chad's drums.
Tom Fowler's interview is indeed quite informative, but he also is a bit arrogant. Especially during the comment where he disses Frank's computer music (calling it a sterile and pathetic shit) and a few other places. I think Jimmy Carl Black said he was an awful person to be in a band with, accusing him of the conspiracy to drive out all the original Mothers alumni from the Grandmothers.

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Location: Nashville, Tn Anyone know the year on Arthur's Ripper?
(I only ask because my wife just approved my mostly un-wise purchase of a mint 1974 natural finish dream bass!!!)


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Location: Nashville, Tn I thought I had posted again here but hadn't.
I found another post, but rather than resuscitate it I will post that info here:
Barrow's bass in the other discussion was named as a 77/78 fretless gibson ripper.
This info corroborates what is on Barrows own website.
And in that other thread people start speculating that Barrow's fretless toured with him with Zappa.
It may have, but I have reason to believe the bass he lists on his site was not the same bass. Maybe he liked the sound and bought a fretless one like it? Maybe he de-fretted his? Whatever it is, on Circus Krone '78 video his bass is clearly fretted, 
 as is his bass here:
By 79 he was on the Fender Jazz for Joe's Garage, and in the Paris 1980 video.


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